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Brittany Stud

Postby tiger6761 » Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:09 am

I am in Alabama and have a 2 and a half year old Brittany. He's a great quail dog but mainly he is a house/family dog. He gets to hunt about 3-4 times a year. Anyway, I would like to stud him. I'm not worried about money, I just want to do it to meet his physical needs. He comes from a great stock of quality family/bird dogs. Anyway..... how in the world do I go about doing this? Most breeders have their own stock and are not interested in bringing in outside dogs. Anyone out there have any advice?

SR47462703 - Mitchell Lever Du Soleil - Orange/white

Sire: Woodchuck Thigodaux Fontaineau - SR28681709
Dam: Julie's Dixie Darling - SR22547004
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Re: Brittany Stud

Postby kninebirddog » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:08 pm

I will be quite frank

Hips OFA'd and passing

that he is brucelosis tested prior to tested females...

What are his qualities beside he has nuts and papers and is a nice hunting dog in your opinion. Physical needs in my honest opinion is a poor reason to breed..I see all to many poorly bred dogs where a person impulse bought only to be dismayed when their dog isn't up to par because there was no real consideration to a real breeding program

When I seek an outside stud to breed my females to I look for qualities from that stud dog like titles NSTRA AKC American Field and a pedigree to match..some type of venue where a dog is evaluated against other dogs proving that they are doing wat they are bred for. I would rather pay 800 bucks to a field proven dog with passing hips then get a freebie breeding to some unknown great companion hunting buddy

there are plenty of dogs out there ...just look under the breeders page I believe there are over 300 brittany breeders listed

Contrary to what some may think I do care very much about the Brittany breed.


I have gone through many females and males to get to those I will allow to produce puppies...again Just because a dog has papers and isn't fixed doesn't mean it should be added to the gene pool

With that said

Your dog is young...have your dog evaluated by some outside sources ..when your dog is impressing others then people might come to you with their females should they decide that they want to deal with a litter of puppies

Then the first thing they should keep in mind what will they do with puppies they can not sell as contrary to peoples beliefs people don't come pounding down the door standing in line for a puppy


I know this sounds a bit sharp and to the point...But I see the results of litters that were not fully thought about...We are a pheasant preserve and I get about 6-12 calls a year from people who have litters where they can't get rid of the pups and want to know if our clients want their puppies..a couple of those calls the people want to give me their left overs...I feel sorry for them but no I do not take their freebies and unload them on my clients...as I will end up being stuck with them

Also when someone seeks to have their female bred to my stud i require ofa passing hips neg brucellosis she be free of medical issues like allergies and the like hunts and not gunshy

just some food for thought

You might also want to post the pedigree of your Stud dog
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Re: Brittany Stud

Postby tiger6761 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:22 pm

Thanks for the info. All great stuff I needed to know.
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Re: Brittany Stud

Postby tiger6761 » Sat May 08, 2010 10:00 am

Also, since you brought these points up....
The Dam comes from Whittington's Bingo line according to my breeder. I imagine I could get the pedigree back that far if needed.
The Sire has heavy French in his line. Goes back to Osage du Hameau de Sorny. His line back into France is full of French champions and international champions. http://www.rollingredprairiekennel.com/four.htm#osage.

I am researching any titles in his pedigree at this time. I have to order the expanded pedigree from AKC to get this.

He has not been tested for hips but there are no hip problems in his pedigree according to his breeder. If someone were serious about wanting to use him I would be willing to have that test done. No allergies. Has ZERO gunshyness. If anything the sound of a gun sends him into a state of bliss. He is a fearless hunter. Briars, limbs, trees, millet, doesn't matter. He is running in head first. He is a natural close hunter. That is something I prefer since I walk when hunting. He has a soft mouth and is a fine retriever. We are still working through his dislike of feathers in his mouth. I think I have that licked (so to speak). I am just starting to work on honoring point (he's never hunted with other dogs).

As a house dog he is top notch. He has not chewed a single thing up in the house and that is where he spends most of his time. He's great with kids and wants to play with pretty much any dog he sees. We do occasionally have some minor aggressive issues with other male dogs(mainly when he is with my wife) but those are a training issue (human and dog).

I am going to start working towards getting his Junior Hunter. I doubt I will go further than that. I want a hunting dog and having a dog steady to shot just doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I want that dog on the bird so I don't lose any. I may change my mind at some point in the process of working on Junior Hunter. If anyone reading this has an opinion on the usefulness of being steady to shot in a real hunting environment please chime in.

Anyway, that's the story. Thanks so much for the input.
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Re: Brittany Stud

Postby jplb4life » Sun May 09, 2010 8:34 pm

I am in Muscle Shoals, AL in Northwest Alabama and I have a 1 1/2yr old brittany named Scarlett Rose she is AKC registered and has papers and parents that have good blood lines, but during our move to our new house we lost her blood line papers that came from the AKC which I am sure can be easily replaced, My wife and I have wanted to breed her and she just came out of heat for the 2nd time her dob is 11/27/08. Here is a good pic of her if you are wanting to breed him with her she have never been hunted but I have trained other dogs and she has more instinct than a lot of them she is a very energetic dog with a good sense of smell and temperment and always wanting to please.
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Re: Brittany Stud

Postby kninebirddog » Sun May 09, 2010 8:52 pm

Ok so is he an Epagnuel Breton aka French Brittany or An American Brittany There is a big difference as though AKC doesn't distinguish the difference between the two, The Brittany community does and is is frowned upon to mix the two in todays age as there are is physical differences and also color differences and some pigment differences between the two..Should you get someone who is interested in showing any black is a disqualification in the ring.



On a junior hunt he should pass pretty quick by the way you describe him if he retrieves and holds till shot on command you probably could pull off a Senior hunt after the JH pretty easy also

Again on the OFA tha is highly suggested as a dog can be mildly dysplastic and unless you have those x rays done and evaluated you would never know or moderate may not show up until later in life

He sounds like a very nice dog ;)
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Re: Brittany Stud

Postby tiger6761 » Mon May 17, 2010 2:00 pm

He is officially American Britt. But going back a few generations there was French in his bloodline.

jplb4life see your private message.
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Re: Brittany Stud

Postby BrittFan » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:41 pm

Sounds like you have a lovely guy...looks to have a very nice head and expression in the photo.
His pedigree has some really nice strong working dogs on the import side.
What is on his American side??? there has been some hanky panky stuff around the country so it is hard to tell what lines are what until you see a full pedigree, some are calling pointer/setter crosses as French Brittanys just becasue they have a black nose or black pigment.
Basically as you appear to know your dog is an American Brittany since the French Brittany folks only take in 100% import lines. IN any case like the other person posted hips are of real importance.
Brittanys are not a large breed but both American and French lines are known to have hip issues and the only way to tell if your dog is not affected is to do an actual x-ray. It is also a good idea to request the same of the female you breed to. Checking for Brucellosis is a very good idea as once a dog is infected the health agencies usually require euthanasia as it is too hard to treat/or keep isolateded and get a cure and it is often transmittable to people. Not too long ago there were several wildlife areas in the south that were affected and numerous beagle packs had to be put down by law.
As much as we would like to think breeding is a simple process, in this day and age with upwardly mobile folks all kinds of ailments are being transported all over. Reproductive VD does occur in the dog much to the surprise of the folks who get hit with it. That is why the "breeders" ask for such testing done to protect their valued dogs, some have even gone so far as to only offer artificial insemination to protect their dogs from becoming infected, especially when thousands of dollars has been spent to import, train, campaign, and test their dogs so as to be able to provide future quality dogs in generations to come.
Go ahead and order your dogs pedigree and start looking up its heritage on both American and French portions of the pedigree, ask around and most well schooled folks on either side should be able to tell you about the dogs behind and their working qualities which will help you make good choices in breeding to hopefully improve on what you have or at the very least not take them backwards. Good Luck !
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